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gingrich did it with wrong king of cnn and our own juan williams during the republican primaries. our senior political analyst brit hume has been in this position. here is his take on the job difficulties. >> you are at the center of attention but you don't want to be. you want the candidate to be the story, you want to facilitate that. you have to be firm enough and sharpen your questioning enough so it makes for an interesting debate and be careful not to cross the line to where it looks like you are favoring one candidate over another. >>jonathan: he says he things it is unlikely the candidates themselves will attack the moderator tonight because he says while that may happen in a primary contest it is far less likely to happen with these candidates trying to look presidential tonight. >>shepard: there is criticism over a lack of racial diversity. >>jonathan: just divertity in general. you look at the moderators of the presidential debate, candy, in the middle, from cnn, is the first woman moderator of a presidential debate for something like 20 years. juan williams says there
gingrich did it with wrong king of cnn and our own juan williams during the republican primaries. our senior political analyst brit hume has been in this position. here is his take on the job difficulties. >> you are at the center of attention but you don't want to be. you want the candidate to be the story, you want to facilitate that. you have to be firm enough and sharpen your questioning enough so it makes for an interesting debate and be careful not to cross the line to where it...
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jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign. welcome to the throuee of you. five days is all mitt romney has before the debate. the politico article everybody is talking about today say this isn't the chair or ho hum convention or the leaked video or distorted polls or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. does he have enough time for a real game change? >> you know, five days before the first debate, 40 days before election day people go around the country already are starting to vote early voting in a bunch of states across the country. it's unclear whether there's enough time. as that politico story points out and as i've been writing a couple of times now, mitt romney has a personal problem, and that is he's too much into micromanaging his own campaigns. as peggy noonan says, his campaign needs a ceo. he needs to be the candidates. he needs to kiss babies, shake hands and do rallies and get on the plane and get to as many rallies he can in addition to adding specifics
jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign. welcome to the throuee of you. five days is all mitt romney has before the debate. the politico article everybody is talking about today say this isn't the chair or ho hum convention or the leaked video or distorted polls or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. does he have enough time for a real game change? >> you know, five days...
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and that really put gingrich in his place. and that's happened throughout the primary debates when pawlenty wouldn't repeat the romney care charge. if the account candidate is not willing to say something face-to-face as they do in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> the other thing he said which i think is true and i would bet you'd agree is that both mitt romney and president obama tend to have the same strengths and weaknesses. the weakness he's concerned about and was in the primary ss that he tends to get defensive. he really needs to control that. i know from sources talking to mitt romney in these mock debates that's definitely one thing they've been practicing big time. >> that was certainly a key moment in the end of newt gingrich's efforts to become the republican presidential nominee. >> sure was. >> mitt romney really gave it to him at that point. we'll have much more on this coming up in our next hour. dana, thanks very much. >>> in our next hour we're g
and that really put gingrich in his place. and that's happened throughout the primary debates when pawlenty wouldn't repeat the romney care charge. if the account candidate is not willing to say something face-to-face as they do in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> the other thing he said which i think is true and i would bet you'd agree is that both mitt romney and president obama tend to have the same strengths and...
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i interviewed newt gingrich. he said the way it were with president clinton, you would be in a room full of advisers, you fling them out, it's you and him, get it done, compromise, get it done. why is that not happening now and what advice do you give to barack obama to try to get into that kind of mind set with the republicans? >> well, that's -- what speaker gingrich said is true, but it's not the whole truth. we had one year when virtually nothing got done. i was a stickler for passing my budgets on time. but, in 2005, we didn't. and i had to veto what they did. and they had to do what they did because that's what they promised the voters they would do in the '94 elections. then the citizens decided they agreed with me more than them. they don't want the government shut down or take a radical departure, just bring the deficit down. so after the two governments shut down in late '95 and early '96, then we began the compromise talks everyone talks about. there's been no forcing event so far. it's what the electi
i interviewed newt gingrich. he said the way it were with president clinton, you would be in a room full of advisers, you fling them out, it's you and him, get it done, compromise, get it done. why is that not happening now and what advice do you give to barack obama to try to get into that kind of mind set with the republicans? >> well, that's -- what speaker gingrich said is true, but it's not the whole truth. we had one year when virtually nothing got done. i was a stickler for passing...
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if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's populous messages, i'm one of the common guys and you're out of touch. romney has an opportunity to say you have made $2 million in one year, you spent more money in your time in the white house than the royal family. how are you one of the common map you say you're a part of? i think preparation is important, knowing the material is important. but then being comfortable enough in your own skin and comfortable with the topic that you can come up with a pious baloney moment. those aren't planned, they aren't scripted, it just happens when it happens. >> but, professor schroeder, we've heard reports that the romney campaign has been preparing some so-called zingers that mitt romney's practiced and can use. i don't know why they would leak that kind of information, because it's like setting you up to fail if it doesn't work out. but how important are little lines like that, do you think? in the history of debates? >> i think they
if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's populous messages, i'm one of the common guys and you're out of touch. romney has an opportunity to say you have made $2 million in one year, you spent more money in your time in the white house than the royal family. how are you one of the common map you say you're a part of? i think preparation is important, knowing the material is...
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former speaker newt gingrich is rejoining us. he does not have a new book out, but his wife calista, does have a new book out, a children's book that will be coming out tomorrow. bob woodward, an associate editor of the "washington post" is the author of "the price of politics" he's written more books than this entire table combined. well, maybe not when you put newt gingrich in there. and pulitzer prize-winning author hendrick smith who has a new book called, "who stole the american dream?" all you people are here to sell books. that's pretty clear. ( laughter ) no, i'm teasing. we're glad to have all of you. mark zandi, let's just talk about what is the state of the american economy right now with just five weeks before we get to this election? the job numbers came out this week on tuesday. we had some very good economic news. housing numbers were up. consumer confidence was up. reports of companies hiring for the holidays seem to be up. but then later in the week, the gross domestic product is down. do you think that american
former speaker newt gingrich is rejoining us. he does not have a new book out, but his wife calista, does have a new book out, a children's book that will be coming out tomorrow. bob woodward, an associate editor of the "washington post" is the author of "the price of politics" he's written more books than this entire table combined. well, maybe not when you put newt gingrich in there. and pulitzer prize-winning author hendrick smith who has a new book called, "who...
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>> that's -- what speaker gingrich said is true but it's not the whole truth. that is, we had one year when virtually nothing got done. i was a real stickler for passing all my budgets on time, and -- but in 2005 we didn't, and i had to veto what they did, and they had to do what they did because that's what they promised the voters they'd do in the '94 elections, and then the citizens decided they agreed with me more than them, they didn't want the government shut down, they just wanted to keep bringing the deficit down. so after the two government shutdowns in late '95 and early '96, then we began this compromise process everybody talks about. there has been no such action forcing event so far. that's what the election is. mark my words, if president obama wins this election, and i think he will, i really do believe he'll win, there will be a lame duck session of congress, they will avoid the fiscal cliff, they will either pass a multi-year budget then or agree to conditions to keep the government going while they work on the budget in the next couple of mont
>> that's -- what speaker gingrich said is true but it's not the whole truth. that is, we had one year when virtually nothing got done. i was a real stickler for passing all my budgets on time, and -- but in 2005 we didn't, and i had to veto what they did, and they had to do what they did because that's what they promised the voters they'd do in the '94 elections, and then the citizens decided they agreed with me more than them, they didn't want the government shut down, they just wanted...
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enemies right at the moment of election where you have this hard core opposition as clinton did with newt gingrich. and then people say maybe he'll unleash in the second term. i think people are concerned with obama as well, who is the real obama. >> eliot: yeah. but we do know that mitt romney is being sunk but his apparently feelty to the far right. and david stockman said this guy is a joker. >> that's right. they look at romney and say this is too far. the right has gone to an extreme that we never would have envisioned or endorsed and the country cannot sustain. this deep of cut to the social net and economic engine will spell chaos. >> eliot: part of the reason for this is there is this huge chasm when the imagery of ronald reagan and the reality of how he governed. the article is titled "who is driving mitt," eric bates, executive editor of "rollingstone" magazine, thank you for time you tonight. >> thank then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? what is that? so weird, right? my agent, tom, said... [ voice of dennis ] ...only allstate sends you a bo
enemies right at the moment of election where you have this hard core opposition as clinton did with newt gingrich. and then people say maybe he'll unleash in the second term. i think people are concerned with obama as well, who is the real obama. >> eliot: yeah. but we do know that mitt romney is being sunk but his apparently feelty to the far right. and david stockman said this guy is a joker. >> that's right. they look at romney and say this is too far. the right has gone to an...
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, facing mortal distinction and by being aggressive and strong and tough he was able to back gingrich down. i think they're more likely to go that direction than to go stately and formal. chris: i was thinking that have movey, "presumed innocent" where harrison ford's character is told, you have to point at that guy and say, he did it. can romney be that strong? do you think that could be coming? >> he has to take a part -- apart some of the things his campaign has been trying to say. that might appeal to those voters who have not been thrilled with the president but have not been converted to romney voters yet. you're going to hear a lot of i think a distilled theme of the country can't afford another four years of the last four years. they know that this is the biggest audience he will have had. the republican convention was important but this is much bigger. and will voters get a chance to see him without some of the care contour? the aggression -- caricature? the aggression, he's got to really sort of have a carefree sense of go for it. and not be too controlled and not hold back
, facing mortal distinction and by being aggressive and strong and tough he was able to back gingrich down. i think they're more likely to go that direction than to go stately and formal. chris: i was thinking that have movey, "presumed innocent" where harrison ford's character is told, you have to point at that guy and say, he did it. can romney be that strong? do you think that could be coming? >> he has to take a part -- apart some of the things his campaign has been trying...
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newt gingrich. what if obama is so outside our comprehension that only if you understand kenyon antiolonial behavior can you begin to piece together his actions. d -- >> wou liktoe hish s h ife,au ifca the pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics. >> and -- >> i wish this president would love how to be an american. >> and -- >> no e's ever aedo see birtceificat >> and this tweet, obama sympathizes with attackers in egypt. and then last night -- >> he's not a real president. >> tonight on "hardball" we show you the true ugly campaign being run against the president. even in the face of this ugly attack, there are two big new poll numbers running in his direction. we give them to you tonight. let's check the hardball scoreboard. according to a "new york times"/cbs/quinnipiac poll, obama leads romney by ten points. down in florida, the president's lead in the poll is nine, 53-44. the president looks to be opening up a big lead now, even in the face of this coordinated tack from the right
newt gingrich. what if obama is so outside our comprehension that only if you understand kenyon antiolonial behavior can you begin to piece together his actions. d -- >> wou liktoe hish s h ife,au ifca the pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics. >> and -- >> i wish this president would love how to be an american. >> and -- >> no e's ever aedo see birtceificat >> and this tweet, obama sympathizes with attackers in egypt. and then last night --...
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what are you going to do with gingrich or santorum. some of these people would b behind by 30 points at this eye' going to do a little time travel now. we're going to show you what ann romney is going to say an hour and a half from now on "the tonight show." it's a little magic we can do here. >> and what was it that made you so any? ill y jay, that four years ago it's a hard thing to do this, especially being the wife and having to listen to this stuff all the time. four years ago i made a videotape. and on the veotape i looked in the camera and i id, mitt, m r doing this again. >> oh, really? >> yes. >> there's the perfect political wife. she knows how to lie with the best of them. if there was ever a candidate who was absolutely going to run for president again after lose in the repubcan prima la , it was mitt romney. this guy was running from the minute he dropped out last time. and she wants to pretend they had to draft us into doi this agn. >> they had to reallywi o arm. it strains -- it's absolutely not credible at all. and that
what are you going to do with gingrich or santorum. some of these people would b behind by 30 points at this eye' going to do a little time travel now. we're going to show you what ann romney is going to say an hour and a half from now on "the tonight show." it's a little magic we can do here. >> and what was it that made you so any? ill y jay, that four years ago it's a hard thing to do this, especially being the wife and having to listen to this stuff all the time. four years...
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joining us, calista gingrich, "land of the pilgrims' pride." you miss the campaign trail and the fun and the debates? you would be waiting for wednesday night? >> that's right. but i have moved on to ellis, the elephant. >> sean: you know what is amazing. doit man-on-the-street interviews. on the 4th of july, every year. i ask people, who's the 4th of july? independence day. independence from who? most people cannot answer that question. >> it is a tragedy that many of our students are not learning american history. and the recent study shows that a majority of fourth graders don't know what jamestown was. a majority of fourth graders can't tell us where the pilgrims came from. fewer than a third of eighth graders can't say why the colonies fought england. so we really need to take responsibility and teach our children what it means to be american. >> sean: you know, by the way, it's a fun thing, the elephant's cute. but it's obviously a good way -- we have all of these other characters out there, have you elmo and sesame street. but you don't
joining us, calista gingrich, "land of the pilgrims' pride." you miss the campaign trail and the fun and the debates? you would be waiting for wednesday night? >> that's right. but i have moved on to ellis, the elephant. >> sean: you know what is amazing. doit man-on-the-street interviews. on the 4th of july, every year. i ask people, who's the 4th of july? independence day. independence from who? most people cannot answer that question. >> it is a tragedy that many...
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patrick, you say newt gingrich's famous pious baloney line was one of his strongest hits against mitt romney during the primary debates. i want to play that for our viewers who don't remember. take a look. >> can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? the fact is you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you -- this idea that suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, just level with the american people. you've been running for at least since the 1990s. >> i'm curious how much of those kind of zingers are prethought out and what does mitt romney have to do to avoid taking a big hit tomorrow night? >> well, that was all newt and part of the great thing about newt is that he knew the topic, you knew the weak points, but he was prepared to answer the question and then if you can come up with pious baloney, then that just puts a cherry on top. interestingly enough, if you googled baloney two hours after that debate you would get oscar mayer and newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, especially when it comes to obama's populoous message, i'm one of the common guys and you're out o
patrick, you say newt gingrich's famous pious baloney line was one of his strongest hits against mitt romney during the primary debates. i want to play that for our viewers who don't remember. take a look. >> can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? the fact is you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you -- this idea that suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, just level with the american people. you've been running for at least since the 1990s. >> i'm curious how much of...
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if you remember the debates with newt gingrich, speaker gingrich was challenging him on his immigration policy. he was really going after him about deporting grandmothers and he thought on his feet and came back with a great response. we can't deport 11 million grandmothers. there aren't 11 million grandmothers that we're deporting. so he can. he can retort. what the governor has got to do, it's not about parrying, it's about going on offense. it's about starting the debate on offense and finishing the debate on offense. >> bill: remember, though, because i've debated barak obama twice, i mean, he's not jimmy carter. reagan was the template who destroyed carter. but obama is much quicker than jimmy carter was. now, i don't think mitt romney is a confrontational man, am i correct on that assessment? he's not me. he's not looking for the fight. he doesn't relish the debate. >> that's what happened the first probably 15 primary debates. he stayed out of the fray and just sort of gave his mental. that's right. and let everybody else beat each other up. >> bill: but this time he has to prove
if you remember the debates with newt gingrich, speaker gingrich was challenging him on his immigration policy. he was really going after him about deporting grandmothers and he thought on his feet and came back with a great response. we can't deport 11 million grandmothers. there aren't 11 million grandmothers that we're deporting. so he can. he can retort. what the governor has got to do, it's not about parrying, it's about going on offense. it's about starting the debate on offense and...
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what are you going to do with gingrich or santorum. some of these people would be behind by 30 points at this stage of the game. ann romney, we're going to do a littleime avel now. e g hou wh ann romney is going to say an hour and a half from now on "the tonight show." it's a little magic we can do here. >> and whawas it that made you so angry? >> i will tell you jay, that four years ago it's a hard thing tothesaleihe wife and having to listen to this stuff all the time. four years ago i made a videotape. and on the videotape i looked in the camera and i said, mitt, this is for you, sweetheart. i'm never doing this again. >> oh, really? >> y >>here's the perfe political wife. she knows how to lie with the best of them. if there was ever a candidate who was absolutely going to run for president again after lose tg in the republican priries last time, it was mitt romney. this guy was running from the d watoteheopped out st time. had to draft us into doing this again. >> they had to really twist our arm. it strains -- it's absolutely o.'s
what are you going to do with gingrich or santorum. some of these people would be behind by 30 points at this stage of the game. ann romney, we're going to do a littleime avel now. e g hou wh ann romney is going to say an hour and a half from now on "the tonight show." it's a little magic we can do here. >> and whawas it that made you so angry? >> i will tell you jay, that four years ago it's a hard thing tothesaleihe wife and having to listen to this stuff all the time....
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newt gingrich says be on offense without being offensive. dash of humor is worth its weight in gold. go large, and explain his tax plan, and on and on and on. what's he going to do? what should he do tonight? what advice should he take? >> well, you know, mitt romney is suffering from advice. conservatives are clearly, clearly concerned about the poll numbers which have shown him behind. the race may be tightening a bit but the race is still behind in key swing state. what advice? good question. i'll be looking to see which advice he decides to follow but i think the average voter want some specifics from mitt romney. partisans, conservatives who have already made up their minds may want him to attack the president. you know, go after him, be aggressive. but i think undecided voters out there who are giving romney a second look want specifics about how he is is going to improve the economy to them, for them, and about taxes. give us a plan for balancing the budget that makes sense. you know, romney plans to cut taxes for the rich, enlarge th
newt gingrich says be on offense without being offensive. dash of humor is worth its weight in gold. go large, and explain his tax plan, and on and on and on. what's he going to do? what should he do tonight? what advice should he take? >> well, you know, mitt romney is suffering from advice. conservatives are clearly, clearly concerned about the poll numbers which have shown him behind. the race may be tightening a bit but the race is still behind in key swing state. what advice? good...
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>>> plus, newt gingrich, newt gingrich says mitt romney has a messaging failure as new polls have even more bad news for the republican candidate. can the romney camp turn things around? >>> the big break in one of the biggest mysteries of all time. this time, police may actually know where jimmy hoffa's body is. you're watching starts point. ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. biggest mysteries of all time. [ male announcer ] if you stash tissues like a squirrel stashes nuts, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® liquid gels. nothing starts working faster than zyrtec® at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. zyrtec®. love the air. at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. >>> the big break in one of the n u to here? at university of phoenix we're moving career planning forward so you can start figuring that out sooner. in fact, by thinking about where you want your education to lead, while you're still in school, you might
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. >> newt gingrich breaks down the mixed messages coming out of the white house. >> what did president obama do the same day of a terror attack on american citizens? he campaigned in las vegas. >> sean: and a blistering new political ad targets the anointed one's response to the banghazi terror attack. plus, the candidates collide in less than 48 hours. >> this whole race is going to be turned upside down come thursday morning. >> sean: the president tries to downplay expectations and predictions from team romney as we preview wednesday's debate in denver. >> i just created a huge screw-up. >> sean: all that, plus my exclusive interview with former california governor and hollywood legend arnold schwarzenegger. we are 36 days from election day and "hannity" starts right here right now. >> sean: this is a fox news alert. congressional hearings on the banghazi attack are about to be convened in the last hour fox news has obtained a letter that will be sent to hillary clinton tomorrow morning. this letter is from congressman jason chavitz. it reads in part, the full committee anticipates
. >> newt gingrich breaks down the mixed messages coming out of the white house. >> what did president obama do the same day of a terror attack on american citizens? he campaigned in las vegas. >> sean: and a blistering new political ad targets the anointed one's response to the banghazi terror attack. plus, the candidates collide in less than 48 hours. >> this whole race is going to be turned upside down come thursday morning. >> sean: the president tries to...
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newt gingrich said president obama ist a real prident, he said that last nigh hays he's a false president. when will this right wing effort stop to stop the legitimacy of this president? we'll talk about the relentless campaign. >>> also, the lead president obama enjoys in the polls may be helping democrats on other job races like senate. nde e fortunates are ne senat on the rise, wisconsin's tammy baldwin. mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney anpaul ryan on the campaign trail toeshgs a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big aw othe puanke nuwo guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. we need it now more than er. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of tha
newt gingrich said president obama ist a real prident, he said that last nigh hays he's a false president. when will this right wing effort stop to stop the legitimacy of this president? we'll talk about the relentless campaign. >>> also, the lead president obama enjoys in the polls may be helping democrats on other job races like senate. nde e fortunates are ne senat on the rise, wisconsin's tammy baldwin. mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting...
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newt gingrich said president obama isn't a real president, he said that last night, he says he's a false president. when will this right wing effort stop to stop the legitimacy of this president? we'll talk about the relentless campaign. >>> also, the lead president obama enjoys in the polls may be helping democrats on other job races like senate. tonight we'll talk to one senate candidate whose fortunes are on the rise, wisconsin's tammy baldwin. mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for his we'll be right back. >>> there's an attempt on the right wing to delegitimatize president obama, an attempt to
newt gingrich said president obama isn't a real president, he said that last night, he says he's a false president. when will this right wing effort stop to stop the legitimacy of this president? we'll talk about the relentless campaign. >>> also, the lead president obama enjoys in the polls may be helping democrats on other job races like senate. tonight we'll talk to one senate candidate whose fortunes are on the rise, wisconsin's tammy baldwin. mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo...
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i mean, ultimately, in the end he was running as rick perry, newt gingrich and rick santorum, and he made choices that made things easier in the spring but vastly more complicated in the fall. >> on what ron said, the democrats have become much more assertive on this issue which is a big sea change. on immigration, for example, rahm emanuel himself when he was trying to win democratic majorities counseled centrist democrats, stay away from this issue, because when you bring it up, it rallies conservatives, and puts you on the defensive. what did barack obama do this year? he leaned into the issue. he defied his aides who were saying we're going to lose down scale white voters if you do this, if the african-american president hurts hispanics, it's going to hurt you with white swing voters. he did it anyway and, in fact, the response was quite remarkable. it did lead to an uptick in enthusiasm among hispanics, lots of praise for progressives, and swing voters were kind of glad somebody did something that -- >> [inaudible] >> exactly. and it actually put republicans on the defensive. so
i mean, ultimately, in the end he was running as rick perry, newt gingrich and rick santorum, and he made choices that made things easier in the spring but vastly more complicated in the fall. >> on what ron said, the democrats have become much more assertive on this issue which is a big sea change. on immigration, for example, rahm emanuel himself when he was trying to win democratic majorities counseled centrist democrats, stay away from this issue, because when you bring it up, it...